American Nazi: Who Could It Be?

JayoCynic22

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So who could be/would be the most likely candidate for an American dictatorship in the 20th or 21st century?? Could it be a far right hate monger like Pat Robertson?? A raging communinist like Eugene Debs?? Or anyone in between? Let me know your thoughts
 

Caesar Biden

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I don't think you'd be able to accomplish anything like Nazism in the U.S, but something along the lines of Francoism is possible. You'd have to really mess things up. Perhaps wanking Socialism in the US in the short term, to cause great Reactionary parties to arise.
 
Jonathan

Jonathan

Well for military coup, you can have:
General Douglas MacArthur or General John J. Pershing

What about Lee Harvey Oswald or other Pro-Communist American, being a USSR funded Democrat nomination?

Possible Fascist:
Joseph McCarthy - Red scare makes him "purge" the US of reds under the bed?
J. Edgar Hoover - Like George H.W. Bush with his CIA, Hoover becomes leader after being head of the FBI, by winning the 1952 Republican nomination?
 
Jonathan

Jonathan

Biden&Ceaser'12 said:
I don't think you'd be able to accomplish anything like Nazism in the U.S, but something along the lines of Francoism is possible. You'd have to really mess things up. Perhaps wanking Socialism in the US in the short term, to cause great Reactionary parties to arise.
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What like sending people to a remote camp (Like_this) without trial?

Statesman said:
Because no one has said so yet, Douglas MacArthur.
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Beat me to it <<
 

Caesar Biden

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Jonathan said:
What like sending people to a remote camp (Like_this) without trial?
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Yes, cause this is comparable to this.

Before you say anything, no I'm not saying this because Americans are "better" or have more "freedom" or anything like that. It's purely based upon the circumstances Americans are in. There is no need for any type of "Lebensraum" ideology when the US already has so much land for its people. Fascism as a whole is harder to implement, because the US is so well-off economically, and has won every war it has fought in since 1814. Socialism is much more likely to take over in the US than Fascism.
 
Jonathan

Jonathan

Biden&Ceaser'12 said:
Yes, cause this is comparable to this.

Before you say anything, no I'm not saying this because Americans are "better" or have more "freedom" or anything like that. It's purely based upon the circumstances Americans are in. There is no need for any type of "Lebensraum" ideology when the US already has so much land for its people. Fascism as a whole is harder to implement, because the US is so well-off economically, and has won every war it has fought in since 1814. Socialism is much more likely to take over in the US than Fascism.
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Nazism is not only about "Living space" if a politician feels that a certain group or race of people should not be living in America.

Hell, George W. Bush could have happily arrested people on 12th September 2001, without anyone butting an eyelid.
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Caesar Biden

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Jonathan said:
Nazism is not only about "Living space" if a politician feels that a certain group or race of people should not be living in America.

Hell, George W. Bush could have happily arrested people on 12th September 2001, without anyone butting an eyelid.
hitler-vs-bush.jpg

bush-hitler1.jpg
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It's all well and good to have your standard racism (presumably against African-Americans/Eastern Europeans), but you need a catalyst to be speaking of genocide. The situation in Germany that allowed Hitler to take power is not going to exist in the United States, due to geography and demographics.

Also, to the second part of your post: What the hell?
 

Admiral Halsey

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Jonathan said:
Nazism is not only about "Living space" if a politician feels that a certain group or race of people should not be living in America.

Hell, George W. Bush could have happily arrested people on 12th September 2001, without anyone butting an eyelid.
hitler-vs-bush.jpg

bush-hitler1.jpg
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What the hell with the images? How the hell did Bush "scapegoat" the terrorists when they were the ones who did it?
 

Napoleon IV

Sabot Cat said:
Ignore the trollbait, folks.

In any case, surprised D.C. Stephenson hasn't been mentioned yet.
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Of course the problem with sexual predators is that they have serious self-control issues. Even if he decides not to rape and murder that poor girl there will probably be others.

Other than that he would be a great candidate for an American Hitler.
 
shiftygiant

shiftygiant

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JayoCynic22 said:
So who could be/would be the most likely candidate for an American dictatorship in the 20th or 21st century?? Could it be a far right hate monger like Pat Robertson?? A raging communinist like Eugene Debs?? Or anyone in between? Let me know your thoughts
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Lincoln Rockwell and Matt Koehl? I mean, both men were leaders of the American Nazi Party. Given that at the time of his assassination Rockwell was reforming the party, if he survives I could see him or Koehl being major figures during the resurgence of the far right in the late 70's/80s. Alternatively, if Rockwell never moves to forming a national socialist party, he could become a contender in the Republican Party (I know it's cliche, but this was during the shift to the right). Rockwell, coming from Illinois, could have an effect in making himself seem like humble Lincon-esk figure. Whilst his racism is undoubted, a desperate Republican Party in a post-Nixon environment (Assuming that Nixon still suffers a downfall as volatile as IOT) could take advantage of his abilities and put him up as a vice-presidential candidate. From there, depending on who's he's vicing, he could become President and evolve it to a dictatorship- perhaps he would take advantage of a race riot or foreign intervention to declare himself President-until-further-notice?
 
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Jonathan

Jonathan

Admiral Halsey said:
What the hell with the images? How the hell did Bush "scapegoat" the terrorists when they were the ones who did it?
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The "scapegoat" is a bit much, but there was no evidence that the communist were not the ones behind the riechstag fire.

All I am saying is that, if some one wanted to, they could have used the 9/11 attack, to their advantage, sending anyone with a slight connection to unsavourie activites and send them to be interigated.

Like "It Cant Happen Here" if a person is able to use fear they can get away with anything. Or as Robert Harris's character "Adam Lang" states before being killed:
"If you have two queues at airports: one for flights where the government has done no background checks, infringed on no one's civil liberties, used no intelligence gained by torture. And on the other flight have had everything possibly done to make it perfectly safe. And then we'd see which plane the people get on!"
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People are happy to sacrafice other people's certain freedom's for their own safety.​
 
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